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Sir Graham Brady MP, Chairman of the 1922 Committee of backbench Tory MPs, tells Christopher Hope why the new coronavirus tier system is a "very serious infringement" of human rights and fails to summarise the Brexit 'deal or no deal' conundrum in under a minute... Who can blame him?

Also on the podcast: former Trade Secretary Liam Fox tells us why entrepreneurs must be at the heart of economic recovery, and an entrepreneur himself, Phones 4U founder and philanthropist John Caudwell on why Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak ought to be locked in a room with a gaggle of businessmen, and whether his £500k Tory Party donation was money well spent...

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